Derisky Business
“Derisky Business” is a show that explores economic security issues within the broader national security and foreign policy landscape. Hosts Emily Kilcrease and Geoffrey Gertz dive into the weeds on issues like export controls, tariffs, and trade, linking these issues to broader debates on how to advance U.S. global economic leadership during times of geopolitical turbulence. Listen for new episodes bi-weekly, and check out other podcasts from the Center for a New American Security at cnas.org/connect/podcasts.
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Episode Archive
Energy, Economics & Security
U.S. Chip Controls and the Future of AI Compute
That escalated quickly! Emily and Geoff discuss why the U.S. aim to deny China access to the computing power necessary for frontier AI capabilities has led to an ever expandin...
Energy, Economics & Security
Europe’s Take on Economic Security with EU Ambassador to the U.S. Jovita Neliupšienė
Ambassador Jovita Neliupšienė, the European Union's Ambassador to the United States, joins Emily and Geoff for a wide-ranging conversation on Europe's growing role as a econom...
Energy, Economics & Security
How ASML Came to Dominate Chipmaking
NRC Media reporter Marc Hijink joined co-host Emily Kilcrease at a CNAS event to discuss his book, Focus: The ASML Way. For decades, ASML - the most valuable technology compan...
Energy, Economics & Security
Economic Security in Asia Part 2: The Pivot to Asia with Richard Fontaine
Richard Fontaine, CEO of the Center for a New American Security, joins Emily and Geoff to discuss his new book, co-authored with Robert Blackwill, Lost Decade: The US Pivot to...
Energy, Economics & Security
Economic Security in Asia Part 3: The View From Australia with Mike Green
On this international episode of Derisky Business, recorded at the United States Studies Center in Sydney, Australia, Dr. Mike Green joins the podcast to discuss how Australia...
Energy, Economics & Security
Geopolitical Doomscrolling
Geoff and Emily talk about the tensions between social media platforms and governments around the world, including Telegram’s troubles in France and X’s spats with Brazil and ...
Energy, Economics & Security
Economic Security in Asia Part 1: China's growing pains with Dan Rosen
Dan Rosen, leading expert on China's economy and head of the Rhodium Group's China practice, joins Emily and Geoff to talk about the recently concluded third plenum meetings i...
Energy, Economics & Security
What a Bunch of Malarkey!
Emily and Geoff discuss the U.S. presidential election and what that might mean for economic security policy. They get into trade policy, what both candidates would do to comp...
Energy, Economics & Security
How U.S.-China Competition Upended the International Economic Order and What the United States Can Do to Fix It
On June 26, CNAS hosted an event to discuss a new report, Disorderly Conduct: How U.S.-China Competition Upended the International Economic Order and What the United States Ca...
Energy, Economics & Security
How to regulate smart, not dumb, with Alan Estevez
This week, Under Secretary of Commerce Alan Estevez joins Derisky Business to talk tech competition with China, how Russia can still get western chips, and why all our cars mi...
The Biden Administration's Economic Security Agenda with Daleep Singh
On this special live-recorded episode from the 2024 CNAS National Security Conference, Emily Kilcrease talks with Daleep Singh, Deputy National Security Advisor for Internatio...
Energy, Economics & Security
Everyone Loves Tariffs!
Welcome to Derisky Business! On this episode, we discuss the Biden administration’s recent tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles, batteries, solar panels, and other goods. Divi...
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Energy, Economics & Security
No Winners in This Game
Sanctioning China represents a challenge more complex than any other in the modern era of sanctions. The scale and interconnected nature of China’s economy means that the dama...
Energy, Economics & Security
Sanctions by The Numbers: The Russian Energy Sector
Since 2014, the United States, the European Union (EU), and other like-minded nations have targeted the Russian energy sector with increasingly significant coercive economic m...
Energy, Economics & Security
China's Digital Currency and Authoritarianism
China is the first major economy to develop and implement a central bank digital currency (CBDC). Its CBDC has many names: Digital Currency/Electronic Payment (DCEP), the digi...
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